RYM 082: Why And HOW To Stay Creative As A Youth Ministry Leader

Most of us have big ideas and plans when we begin working in the world of youth ministry. We have programming ideas, series ideas, retreat ideas, outreach event ideas, and more. And while we probably implement some of those creative plans, over time, the creativity and innovation muscle in us tends to wane. On this episode, we’re talking about the dangers of becoming stagnant creatively, what to do when you’re stuck in a creative rut, and how to bring creativity back to your youth ministry.

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  • When ministry beats the creativity out of you (5:15)
  • Why the church continues to be stuck in a creative rut (9:25)
  • Reasons it’s difficult for youth ministry workers to stay creative (11:05)
  • How to take a step outside of what you’re doing regularly (12:16)
  • The importance of finding a creative team outside of your church’s walls (17:45)
  • The importance of staying creative and the dangers of falling into a predictable routine (18:45)
  • How to be creative when you don’t have a team (23:00)
  • How to be creative in all areas of your ministry (24:53)
  • How to keep your brain thinking creatively each week (35:15)
  • Advice for the youth ministry leader who feels like they’re stuck in a rut and wants to be creative again (45:09)


Website: The So & So Show

Event: The 2020 Orange Conference

Resource: XP3 Middle School curriculum

Resource: XP3 High School curriculum

Resource: 252 Kids

Just For Fun: Jonathan D. Williams’s IMDB page



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CJ is the Managing Editor for XP3 High School at Orange and one of the hosts and producers of Rethinking Youth Ministry, a podcast raising the bar for student leaders everywhere. CJ has been leading small groups for middle school students at North Point Community Church since 2007, which means he’s probably spent more time talking to middle schoolers than adults in his life. He also placed 5th in his 8th grade class field day fun run. CJ and his wife, Teri, live in Alpharetta, Georgia, with their son, Harley, and their robot vacuum, Barbara.


Jon is part of the 252 Kids curriculum team at Orange. For 252 Kids, he writes, creates, and innovates concepts and content to keep the curriculum fun and relevant for kids. Outside of his work with Orange, Jon is an Atlanta based actor and freelance writer and is known for his work in Ozark (2018), TURN: Washington’s Spies (2015), and Star (2017).



Charlie is an XP3 Orange Specialist at Orange after spending the past 20 years working with students in educational and ministry settings. Most recently, Charlie spent 12 years as the middle school youth pastor in a thriving Methodist church in the Metro Atlanta area. Charlie grew up in rural Illinois but has been living in metro Atlanta, GA for the past 14 years. She lives with her husband Eric, her sometimes snarky but lovable daughter, and their three pups.



Brett is an XP3 Orange Specialist with Orange after spending 11 years in full time ministry. He’s been married to his amazing wife since 2004. They have three amazing and hilarious kids who constantly keep them busy and laughing. He loves baseball, golf and makes amazing turkey melt sandwiches (if he has the time and ingredients, otherwise they’re just average).

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Orange Conference 2018