RYM 003: What does it mean to get better?

Whether it’s personally or professionally, there are areas in which we all want to “get better.” And if you’ve ever wondered what exactly “getting better” looks like, this episode is for you. In today’s episode, listen as ministry leaders wrestle with defining what it means to get better personally, and discuss the importance of knowing, understanding, and leading yourself along the way.

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The most important person you lead is yourself. (4:00)

Lean into your strengths, rather than trying to make your weaknesses better. (8:00)

Your growth and your confidence is your responsibility. (11:30)

Surround yourself with a personal team to help you figure out what it means for you to “get better.” (15:00)

The years ahead will be shaped by how well you know yourself. (16:00)

Read. Read a book that inspires you, a book that is fun, and a book that scares you. (20:00)

Invite viewpoints that you disagree with to speak into your life. (23:30)

Everything you do inside of your ministry is a reflection of where you are personally. (32:00)





CJ is the Managing Editor for XP3 High School and Social Media Strategist for XP3’s blog and social media platforms. CJ has been leading small groups for middle school and high school students at North Point Community Church for the past 10 years. He also placed 5th in his 8th grade class fun run. CJ and his wife, Teri, live in Alpharetta, GA.


Tom Shefchunas is the Executive Director of Student Strategy at Orange. In this role, he leads the development and strategy for XP3 Middle School and High School curriculumPreviously, Tom was North Point MinistriesMulti-Campus Director of Transit, their middle school ministry, for 12 years. And before that, he spent 10 years as a high school teacher, coach, and principal. Additionally, he is the co-author of Lead Small with Reggie Joiner. Tom and his wife, Julie, live in Cumming, Georgia, with their three children, Mac, Joey, and Cooper.



Crystal currently leads the XP3 High School initiative at Orange. Before that, she spent 10 years as a high school teacher and student ministry leader, doing everything from leading small groups to speaking to curriculum design. Crystal and her husband, Tom, live in Alpharetta, GA with an ill-tempered chihuahua named Javier.


Ashley Bohinc serves as the Director of Middle School Strategy at Orange, co-host of The Think Orange Podcast, and co-author of The Art of Group Talk. She’s worked with students in public education, athletic, and ministry settings since 2005. Ashley is most passionate about resourcing the local church, communicating onstage, developing leaders, working with students, and engaging in world missions. Additionally, she’s the USA Director of Carry 117. In her downtime, you’ll find her watching Friends, cheering on the Cleveland Cavaliers, traveling, reading, or on one of her Fairytale Friday Adventures.

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Orange Conference 2018