The best way for kids to know God is for kids to know people who know God.

God leverages community and relationships to bring kids and teenagers into a lifelong relationship with Him. Small Group Leaders play an essential role in that. On today’s episode of the Think Orange Podcast, Adam Duckworth shares why having a lead small mentality works. Then, we have a conversation with Terry Scalzitti about the five roles of a Small Group Leader.

Welcome to Episode 009 of the podcast.

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Topic Timeline

How Adam Duckworth got started in ministry (4:35)

If you’re serious about giving kids an authentic faith, you need to get serious about connecting kids to consistent leaders( 6:40)

Kids need consistent leaders and relationships (8:05)

God reveals Himself to us when we show up for someone else (10:00)

The best way for kids to know God is for kids to know people who know God (11:45)

We have a responsibility to help kids and teenagers to see God (14:00)

If you want to help a kid know God better, get to know the kid better (16:40)

Terry Scalzitti (17:55)

What are the essential traits of a Small Group Leader? (19:30)

Help your volunteers believe in themselves (20:10)

What if a potential SGL isn’t the right fit? (23:30)

Five big ideas for SGLs (27:00)

The parallels between kid groups, adult groups, suburban groups, and urban youth groups (33:35)

Why is leading small so important? And what does it mean for the person who’s never heard about it (41:00)

How do you help your church transition to lead small thinking? (47:45)

What should you consider before becoming a SGL? (50:25)

How do you get your Senior Pastor on board? (56:45)

People, Places & Helpful Resources

Featured Guest

Adam Duckworth


Adam is the Lead Communicator at Downtown Harbor Church in Fort Lauderdale, FL, and the author of Not Normal – 7 Quirks of Incredible Volunteers.

Terry Scalzitti


Terry is the Lead Pastor at Ocean View Baptist Church in Myrtle Beach, SC. Previous to Ocean View, Terry led almost 50 team members on staff to become one of the nations’ top Family Ministries. Terry travels and speaks to leaders across the country on topics such as leadership, parenting and family ministry.

Quotes from This Episode

Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

1. The best way for kids to know God is for kids to know people who know God

What was biggest influence on your faith? Chances are, it was a person. You knew somebody who knew God, and they shared the wonder of the Gospel with you. God uses community to reveal Himself to us.

This is why a consistent leader, who shows up each week, is important. Because it’s not about getting kids into a room so that they can hear stories about God. It’s about kids connecting to a leader who can share God with them in a relevant, thoughtful way.

2. If you want to help a kid know God better, get to know the kid better

Leading small isn’t a one-way transaction. Adults need to get to know their kids and teenagers, too. They need to ask questions and listen. Reggie Joiner calls this “investing in your few.”

3. Help your volunteers believe in themselves

Terry told us that usually when a volunteer thinks that they might not be a right fit for a Small Group Leader, they usually need some encouragement. As their leader, get to know your volunteers and what their passions and strengths are. Being a Small Group Leader is tough work, so when they’re discouraged, you need to be their number one fan.

Conversation Starters For Your Church

Which essential trait of a Small Group Leader that Terry described are you or your team excelling at? What could use improvement?

How could you better encourage your SGL volunteers and become their biggest fans? 

Your Hosts

Dave Adamson, The Think Orange Podcast Host


When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at

Ashley Bohinc, The Think Orange Podcast Host


Ashley serves as the Director of Middle School Strategy at Orange and the USA Director of Carry 117. She has worked with students in public education, athletic and ministry settings for the last 12 years. She is most passionate about resourcing the local church, communicating on stage, developing leaders, working with students and world missions. In her downtime, you’ll find her watching Friends, cheering on the Cleveland Cavaliers, traveling, reading, or on one of her Fairytale Friday Adventures.

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We hope that when you think next generation, you think Orange.