Do ever feel like maybe your church should be doing more? Sure, you care for your congregation every Sunday and throughout the week, and you create ministry programs to engage every single person who walks through your doors.

But what about reaching the people outside your church–the ones who may never come close without a direct and persistent invitation? How can you best reach them?

Today’s episode answers that question.

You’ll hear from Danielle Strickland, author of five books and ambassador for Compassion International and Stop the Traffik, on the example Jesus gives us of seeking out the vulnerable. Then Sarah Bragg interviews Noemi Chavez, co-lead pastor of 7th Street Church and co-founder of Brave, about her desire to forever change the future of foster care girls.

Welcome to Episode 64 of the Think Orange Podcast.

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Topic Timeline

Dave introduces today’s guests. (1:45)

Danielle Strickland on border places. (3:17)

Jesus is in love with mercy. (7:40)

Danielle shares a story of perspective shift. (11:24)

What vulnerable people need. (17:11)

Jesus gives people choices. (20:28)

Find the border places and ask questions. (24:31)

Sarah Bragg introduces Naomi Chavez. (26:21)

Naomi Chavez on the most at-risk demographic. (33:26)

The Brave campaign. (35:53)

What churches need to understand about human trafficking. (40:23)

How churches can become brave. (44:28)

Dave’s final thoughts. (48:59)

People, Places & Helpful Resources

Brave Global

The Orange Conference

The Orange Tour

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Featured Guests

Danielle Strickland


Danielle Strickland is a speaker, author and social justice advocate Danielle is the author of five books with her most recent being The Ultimate Exodus: Finding Freedom From What Enslaves You and The Zombie Gospel: The Walking Dead and What It Means To Be Human. She is the host of DJStrickland Podcast, co-founder of Infinitum, Amplify Peace and Brave Global.


Noemi Chavez is co-lead pastor at 7th Street Church in Long Beach, CA. She is a national conference speaker, and she’s also the co-founder of Brave, a movement which focuses on reaching out to girls that are on probation and in the foster care system.

Noemi Chavez

Quotes from This Episode

Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

Where is your church afraid to go? Go there.

If we hope to follow the example of Jesus, we must go to the border places. Yes, we should seek out the people marginalized by society–the ones who make us uncomfortable and who mess with our reputation as good, religious boys and girls. After all, these are the people Jesus is drawn to and if we are to follow Him we must love who He loves.

Learn to love mercy.

We can dutifully dole out mercy or we can cheerfully give it away. It’s up to us. As individuals, church staff and the church body, we can choose to accept the mercy Jesus freely surrenders to us every single day. And we can take from our abundance–of which we have plenty–to pour out our time, interest and generosity on those who need it most.

Identify a vulnerable population in your city and use what you have to make a difference.

Our efforts don’t need to be over the top to catch the attention of the Father. He recognizes our intentions and takes ownership of the hearts we hope to reach. By acting out of our own capacity and relying on him to do the rest, we truly can see a transformation.

Conversation Starters For Your Church

What are we doing to address the very real problem of girls leaving foster care and ending up on the street?


How does our church culture encourage (or discourage) our congregation to reach out to vulnerable populations?


How can we as a church—with what we havelavish mercy on those in need?

Your Hosts

Dave Adamson, The Think Orange Podcast Host


When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at

Ashley Bohinc, The Think Orange Podcast Host


Ashley serves as the Director of Middle School Strategy at Orange and the USA Director of Carry 117. She has worked with students in public education, athletic and ministry settings for the last 12 years. She is most passionate about resourcing the local church, communicating on stage, developing leaders, working with students and world missions. In her downtime, you’ll find her watching Friends, cheering on the Cleveland Cavaliers, traveling, reading, or on one of her Fairytale Friday Adventures.

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