What could happen if we saw everyone the way Jesus sees them? The students in our ministry who don’t listen or behave. Our neighbors who don’t know Jesus. Even ourselves, through our self-doubt and broken hearts.

On today’s episode, we’re listening to three inspiring talks from the Orange Conference 2017. First up is Jud Wilhite as he encourages us to stand firm in who God says that we are, not what the enemy wants us to believe about ourselves. Then, Andy Stanley speaks about the power of a broken heart and how God wants to use yours. Lastly, Danielle Strickland tells a story about her interaction with a Muslim evangelist that forever changed the way she does ministry.

Welcome to Episode 54 of the Think Orange Podcast.

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Topic Timeline

Dave and Ashley introduce the show. (0:30 – 5:15)

Jud Wilhite on anger and forgiveness. (5:20)

How do you deal with hurt and anger? (7:55)

God’s truth is greater than the enemy’s lies. (10:40)

Dealing with haters and negative energy. (13:30)

What do you need to forgive? (16:00)

Be empowered to make a difference. (17:00)

Andy Stanley takes the stage. (20:29)

The power of a broken heart. (21:00)

Using your leadership and broken heart to make a change. (22:20)

Leaders live in the tension between what could be, what should be and what is. (23:40)

There’s a difference between being a leader and being the leader. (26:10)

You are called to leadership. (27:10)

You have no idea what or who hangs in the balance of your broken heart. (29:30)

Danielle Strickland on the way we see our world and neighbors. (32:45)

Jesus changes the way you see the world. Which rocks your world. (34:15)

Danielle’s plane ride with a Muslim evangelist. (35:00)

Showing up with the love of Jesus. (40:00)

The question that changed Danielle’s ministry forever. (42:55)

Dave and Ashley close the show. (47:25)

People, Places & Helpful Resources

Quotes from This Episode

Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

What’s your playlist?

Research shows that the majority of the thoughts we have today are the same thoughts that we had yesterday… we all have a playlist that plays in our hearts and mind. What does yours say? You’re not qualified to be in ministry. You don’t have the talent to do this. They don’t pay you enough. This team doesn’t like you. These people aren’t listening to you. You’re wasting your time.

That’s the wrong playlist. In Christ, you are loved, freed, empowered, gifted and called. You are leveraging your gifts. You are somebody in Jesus Christ because God says you are, not because of the size of your ministry.

God wants your broken heart.

You have a broken heart because you know something needs to change. For the church, your ministry, your staff or yourself. God uses broken hearts and He has a plan for yours. But He can’t use them if we’re always changing the channel. If we tell ourselves “It’ll never get better, what’s the point?”

Jesus saw past it all.

Jesus saw past every social and invisible barrier. Every cultural norm. Every stereotype. Every gender. Every race. He even sees past the barriers you put up over your own face. Jesus sees you, and He is in love with how incredible and beautiful you are.

That’s also how He sees the kids in your ministry. The juvenile delinquents, the foster care students, the kids who you might even pray that don’t come. How much would our ministry change if we saw every child like that? If we saw all of our neighbors like that?

Conversation Starters For Your Church

How do you react when you hear about the drama going on at another church or with another leader? Is it entertaining, or does it break your heart? When we hold onto anger and hurt, our hearts get hard. When that happens, we love seeing anger and hurt happen to others.

How do you let God use your broken heart? How do you keep from changing the channel?

How would our ministry change if we saw every single student the way God sees them?

Your Hosts

Dave Adamson, The Think Orange Podcast Host


When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at daveadamson.tv.

Ashley Bohinc, The Think Orange Podcast Host


Ashley serves as the Director of Middle School Strategy at Orange and the USA Director of Carry 117. She has worked with students in public education, athletic and ministry settings for the last 12 years. She is most passionate about resourcing the local church, communicating on stage, developing leaders, working with students and world missions. In her downtime, you’ll find her watching Friends, cheering on the Cleveland Cavaliers, traveling, reading, or on one of her Fairytale Friday Adventures.

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