As ministry leaders, the lines of generosity are blurred because giving is a part of our job descriptions. So what does it look like to be generous when you already give so much on a weekly basis?

On today’s episode of the Think Orange podcast, our podcast guests, Jeff Shinabarger and Gerald Fadayomi, challenge us to rethink what generosity means for us both professionally and personally and how you don’t have to wait for the perfect opportunity to start giving right now.

Welcome to Episode 33 of the Think Orange Podcast.

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Topic Timeline

Dave introduces today’s podcast guests, Jeff Shinabarger, executive director of Plywood People, and who has been featured on CNN, Huffington Post, and Relevant Magazine, and Gerald Fadayomi, high school pastor at Browns Bridge Church in Cumming, Georgia (1:15)

Jeff talks about how students, like their leaders, struggle with identity (4:51)

How comparison shapes our perspectives (5:22)

Jeff shares a story about when he and his now-wife registered for wedding gifts at Target (6:19)

Out of our excess, we can address issues of need and suffering (12:00)

Jeff talks about what an ‘Enough Experiment’ is and why it’s important (12:21)

Jeff shares a story about when he challenged his wife to see how long they could go without grocery shopping (13:12)

We have a responsibility to our community to give (17:44)

Why most of us never make a decision on what we’re going to give (18:22)

Generosity is not dependent on how much money you have (18:36)

Jeff talks about why waiting until you have more before you give is a wrong way of thinking (19:03)

Jeff talks about the qualities of generous people (19:25)

Jeff shares a story about his employee, Kay, and her generosity (20:52)

Dave introduces Gerald and his role at Browns Bridge Church (23:14)

Gerald and Dave talk about why it’s important for student ministers and volunteers to go the extra mile (24:04)

Whatever you do on Sundays is in your job description whether it is or not (25:19)

Gerald shares three people who have been generous to him (25:44)

How can student pastors show students extra attention? (28:52)

What impact going the extra mile has on students (31:13)

The more you invest in people, the more they show up for you (32:07)

Gerald talks about why planning generosity, rather than letting it happen spontaneously, is a good thing (32:35)

Gerald gives practical tools for ministry leaders to be generous to parents (33:48)

Gerald talks about what generosity looks like on a day-to-day basis (37:13)

Dave gives closing remarks (41:56)

People, Places & Helpful Resources

Featured Guests

Greg Bradford


Jeff is a social entrepreneur and the author of More or Less and Yes or No. Jeff is Executive Director of Plywood People and has a vision to make Atlanta a center for social innovation, while personally engaging in over 250 problem solving start-ups. His work has been featured by CNN, USA Weekend, Atlanta Journal Constitution, Huffington Post, Christianity Today, Coca-Cola, Relevant Magazine, and the Chicago Sun Times. He is the co-founder of Q and creatively led Catalyst for eight years. Many gatherings, universities and corporations invite Jeff to share his insights with their communities including TedX, Pecha Kucha, Creative Mornings, Catalyst, and Q Ideas. Jeff and his wife, Andre, live in Atlanta and have two children.

Duffy Robbins


Gerald leads the InsideOut team at Browns Bridge Church, a North Point Ministries church in Cumming, Georgia.  He is extremely passionate about leading others to know the Author of their stories, and engaging people in the truth of God’s word. As a result, he loves communicating to people of all age groups, from students at InsideOut, BigStuf camps, or weekend retreats, to church leaders at The Orange Conference. Prior to joining the team at Browns Bridge, Gerald worked for the Metro Atlanta YMCA for 3 years, intentionally pouring into students around Atlanta through service learning and leadership development.

Quotes from This Episode

Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

Find areas in your life where excess exists.

Open your pantry, search your closet — there are ample ways to give in those two spots alone. After you’ve identified where you have too much, give it away to someone who needs it.

Be intentional about your giving.

Spontaneous giving is nice, but not necessary. Make a plan for your generosity because it’s important.

Do for one what you wish you could do for many.

The popular Andy Stanley quote is helpful to keep in mind when you’re thinking about how to give. Find someone you have a great relationship with and start your generous giving with that person.

Conversation Starters For Your Church

How can we be excessively generous during the holiday season and beyond?

Who in our church can benefit from our giving right now?

As leaders, how are we being generous in our personal lives?

Your Hosts

Dave Adamson, The Think Orange Podcast Host


When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at

Ashley Bohinc, The Think Orange Podcast Host


Ashley serves as the Director of Middle School Strategy at Orange and the USA Director of Carry 117. She has worked with students in public education, athletic and ministry settings for the last 12 years. She is most passionate about resourcing the local church, communicating on stage, developing leaders, working with students and world missions. In her downtime, you’ll find her watching Friends, cheering on the Cleveland Cavaliers, traveling, reading, or on one of her Fairytale Friday Adventures.

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