Are you and other members of your staff wracking your brains to figure out ways to get everything done?

Are you trying to scale your ministry because of the growth you’ve experienced in recent years?

Have you wondered how you can give your middle school and high school students a lasting faith that goes beyond seasonal programs and short-term mission trips?

What if there was one, simple solution to answer all these questions?

In today’s episode of the Think Orange podcast, we’ll discover what it would mean for your church, community, and the students you serve each week to become active participants — rather than mere spectators — in leading your ministry.

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Topic Timeline

Podcast producer, Kevin Jennings, introduces today’s podcast idea (2:40)

Kevin introduces today’s guests, Greg Bradford, high school pastor at Lake Pointe Church in Rockwall, Texas, and author and speaker, Stuart Hall, who helped launch Orange’s XP3 curriculum, and who has coauthored three books (3:57)

Greg talks about how we underestimate students’ abilities and God’s calling on their lives (6:15)

Greg says ministry leaders have to make serving a big deal in student ministry (9:19)

If we don’t empower students to lead, we are shortchanging the discipleship process of their entire generation (11:24)

Greg talks about how ministry leaders can identify who or what is holding them back from letting the next generation lead (12:37)

Greg talks about the importance of evaluating your current ministry structure (13:06)

Don’t underestimate the power of your communication through your messages to students (14:27)

Building a culture by investing relationally in students helps encourage leadership (15:18)

Why making a big statement to signal the values of your student ministry is critical (17:42)

Greg talks about activating — or equipping — students to lead (17:49)

Why giving students full ownership of their ministry idea helps strengthen their leadership abilities (19:06)

Greg shares a story of how God placed a ministry for special needs kids on a student’s heart — a ministry Greg and others had already been praying about (20:50)

Stuart Hall introduces himself (25:25)

Stuart answers what role the church plays in developing the leadership abilities of the next generation (26:48)

Stuart shares what podcast listeners can do to make a difference in students’ lives (33:32)

What can parents do to help their kids become next generation leaders? (39:00)

How parents’ overprotection can stunt the growth of future leaders (45:31)

Dave makes a comparison between parents’ rigid boundaries for their children and the Israelites struggle with leaving captivity (54:19)

Investing in the growth of our youth’s leadership abilities now has the opportunity to change the course of history (59:10)

Kevin offers closing remarks (1:01:03)

People, Places & Helpful Resources

Featured Guests

Greg Bradford


Greg is the High School Pastor at Lake Pointe Church in Rockwall, Texas, and has served in that capacity for over 18 years. In addition, he coaches and supports the student ministries at Lake Pointe’s nine community campuses. Greg has a passion for seeing students engage and lead in missions and ministry in their church, community, and around the world. He enjoys spending time with his wife, Rebecca, and their three kids, Jake, Jud, and Abi.

Duffy Robbins


Stuart provides vision and leadership for two highly effective non-profit organizations (XP3: A Division of the Rethink Group & DASH INC), deeply desires to develop spiritually influential students that engage culture, partners with great organizations like the Fellowship of Christian Athletes to develop students as leaders, travels and speaks to thousands of students and leaders each year, has coauthored three books (The Seven Checkpoints: Seven Principles Every Teenager Needs to Know, MAX Q: Developing Students of Influence and Wired: For a Life of Worship, Leaders Edition), is working on authoring one or two more, laughs incessantly, coaches his daughters’ basketball teams, relishes watching his son play football and basketball and his daughters play basketball and soccer and loves his beautiful wife Kellee with every fiber of his being.

Quotes from This Episode

Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

Realize it’s not all up to you.

Yes, the church plays a critical role in helping students establish their leadership skills, but a lot of the responsibility falls on their parents and other institutions they interact with on a daily basis. Ask yourself how you’re setting parents up to win and how you’re including others in this leadership-building process.

Don’t underestimate God’s calling on a student’s life.

This generation hardly fits into a box. Don’t limit what God has in store for them by being narrow minded and forcing students to fit into your already-established ministry programming.

Let students feel the weight of their responsibility as leaders.

Tension promotes growth. Resist the urge to shoulder a student’s burden of leadership.

Conversation Starters For Your Church

What or who is standing in your way of allowing students to serve in leadership roles in your ministry? What solutions are available?

When a student comes to us with enthusiasm, how can we encourage and equip them?

In what ways can we partner with parents and other influential people in a student’s’ life to help them cultivate their leadership abilities?

Your Hosts

Dave Adamson, The Think Orange Podcast Host


When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at

Join Us Next Week

Thank you for listening to the Think Orange Podcast.

We hope you’ll join us for next week’s episode. More importantly, we hope that when you think next generation, you think Orange.