There’s often an underlying tension between children’s ministries and youth ministries—or between children’s pastors and youth pastors—in the church. But why? What’s causing the tension and what’s keeping these two ministries from working together efficiently. On this episode, join children’s ministry leaders and youth ministry leaders as they discuss what every children’s pastor wishes their youth pastor knew (and vice versa) and share how the two ministries can begin working better together.
- When the focus is on resources (or lack thereof) instead of the kids, it’s difficult for children’s pastors and youth pastors to be on common ground (5:48)
- Why silos hurt the team (6:43)
- Expectations are the common points of tension and misunderstanding (7:41)
- How your church’s youth ministry can earn the trust of the children’s ministry (9:30)
- The importance of meeting regularly with your entire youth ministry team (12:00)
- Strategy helps build relational equity (14:02)
- How to do transitions among age groups well (17:01)
- How children’s and youth ministries can help each other (26:46)
- The power of feeling heard (28:52)
- You can bridge the gap between the two ministries by doing things together (33:38)
- How to improve the relationship between children’s ministry and youth ministry (35:40)
QUOTES FROM THIS EPISODE
If the focus is on resources, children’s and youth ministries will not get along. If the focus is on the kids, you will have common ground. —Tom Shefchunas Click To TweetWithout a plan, it will be difficult for children’s and youth ministries to work together. With a plan, you have the potential to set a student up for wholistic growth and development. —Sarah Anderson Click To TweetIt’s easier to work together when there is relational equity and trust instead of suspicion. —Mike Clear Click To TweetUncommunicated expectations is resentment just waiting to happen. —Sarah Anderson Click To TweetA great senior program starts in preschool. —Tom Shefchunas Click To Tweet
RESOURCES FROM THIS EPISODE
Podcast: Orange Kids Podcast
Book: Caught In Between by Dan Scott
Resource: Phase Guides
VOICES IN THIS EPISODE
Sarah is a writer and communicator who has been involved in ministry since 2003. In 2007, she joined the XP3 high school team where she now works as a lead writer and content creator. She also a contributing writer to the Parent Cue blog. Sarah lives in Roswell, Georgia, and is a big fan of her husband, her two boys, Asher and Pace, and, in her weaker moments, McDonald’s french fries.
Tom Shefchunas is the Executive Director of Student Strategy at Orange. In this role, he leads the development and strategy for XP3 Middle School and High School curriculum. Previously, Tom was North Point Ministries’ Multi-Campus Director of Transit, their middle school ministry, for 12 years. And before that, he spent 10 years as a high school teacher, coach, and principal. Additionally, he is the co-author of Lead Small with Reggie Joiner. Tom and his wife, Julie, live in Cumming, Georgia, with their three children, Mac, Joey, and Cooper.
Mike serves as the Director of Children’s Strategy at The reThink Group. Mike lives in Cumming, Georgia, with his amazing wife Crystal, who thanks to him has the coolest name ever – Crystal Clear! Together they have two amazing children: Nash and Kennedy.
Dan Scott is the Large Group Director for 252 Basics Group at Orange. He spends most of his time leading a creative team of talented writers that innovate our large group environments. Prior to coming on board at Orange, Dan served as the Elementary Children’s Director at Ada Bible Church. He enjoys traveling around the world coaching children’s ministry leaders and speaking to kids and students. He blogs about life and ministry at danscottblog.com. Dan and his wife Jenna live in Cumming, GA and have four amazing kids: Liam, Ellison, Addison, and Taye.
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