No one likes to have the money conversation. And as youth workers, we know that we’re not paid what we’re worth in ministry, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be compensated appropriately for the work that we do. On this episode, join ministry leaders for a conversation all about asking for a raise: the best time to ask, what you should take into consideration when preparing to ask, and how to start the conversation with your leadership.
- What makes us so uncomfortable when it comes to talking to about money in ministry? (6:00)
- The truth is none of us are paid what we’re worth in ministry. (6:15)
- We are here for more than salary, but we have to exist. (6:30)
- If you’re in ministry, you have made the decision to take less in pay for more in purpose. (7:00)
- Sometimes, the question is not more money, but some money. (7:15)
- As a female, a lot of times you approach the conversation with the mindset of “I am so grateful to be here.” (9:00)
- What’s important to remember when you ask for a raise? (12:30)
- The best time to ask for a raise is before you say yes to the job. (16:45)
- In our culture, we associate value with money. (22:30)
- It’s always different when a male asks for a raise than when a female asks for a raise. (23:45)
- In ministry, talking about how much you are paid is a way to lose influence. (32:00)
- Lead with questions about your future when you start a conversation about a raise. (34:00)
- When you are asking for a raise, be prepared to answer the question “how much more?” (36:00)
- The Church runs responsible people into the ground by paying them with purpose and not with cash value. (37:30)
- Get a financial planner. (53:00)
- Make sure you are giving financially. (53:20)
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Brett is an XP3 Orange Specialist with Orange after spending 11 years in full time ministry. He’s been married to his amazing wife since 2004. They have three amazing and hilarious kids who constantly keep them busy and laughing. He loves baseball, golf and makes amazing turkey melt sandwiches (if he has the time and ingredients, otherwise they’re just average).
Crystal currently leads the XP3 High School initiative at Orange. Before that, she spent 10 years as a high school teacher and student ministry leader, doing everything from leading small groups to speaking to curriculum design. Crystal and her husband, Tom, live in Alpharetta, GA with an ill-tempered chihuahua named Javier.
Ashley Bohinc serves as the Director of Middle School Strategy at Orange, is the co-host of The Think Orange Podcast, and co-authored The Art of Group Talk. She’s worked with students in public education, athletic, and ministry settings since 2005. Ashley is most passionate about resourcing the local church, communicating onstage, developing leaders, working with students, and engaging in world missions. Additionally, she’s the USA Director of Carry 117, a ministry in Ethiopia which focuses on orphan prevention and family preservation by empowering women. In her downtime, you’ll find her watching Friends, cheering on the Cleveland Cavaliers, traveling, reading, or on one of her Fairytale Friday Adventures.
Tom Shefchunas is the Executive Director of Student Strategy at Orange. In this role, he leads the development and strategy for XP3 Middle School and High School curriculum. Previously, Tom was North Point Ministries’ Multi-Campus Director of Transit, their middle school ministry, for 12 years. And before that, he spent 10 years as a high school teacher, coach, and principal. Additionally, he is the co-author of Lead Small with Reggie Joiner. Tom and his wife, Julie, live in Cumming, Georgia, with their three children, Mac, Joey, and Cooper.
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